Damper in a Wok

John Doran, 1819–1884 (aged 65 years)

Name
John /Doran/
Given names
John
Surname
Doran
Name
John /Dorans/
Given names
John
Surname
Dorans
Birth
calculated 1819
Londonderry, Ireland
Immigration
before 1849 (aged 30 years)
Note: Sources checked:

Sources checked:
NSW Archives

  • Convict records
    -- Early indents have a John Doran (alias Dolan) convicted Dublin 1790.
  • Immigration records - no good matches
    -- John Doran immigrated 1841 on "Margaret" is not a match - wife and 3 children
  • Convict lists: John Doran Arrived 1835 "Lady Mcnaughton" 1837 Muster, Convicted Meath, est birth 1816. (Meath is a long way from Londonderry so this may not be a good fit.)

No hit in 1841 NSW Census
There is a John Doran listed in the NSW Electoral roll for a number of years between 1845 & 1862 but in the the electorate of Cook.

No hit in convict marriages register.

Army pay musters:
4 John Dorans noted on garter site. None seemed to have been discharged by 1849.

http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/resources/family-history/convicts
1)
Title: John Doran, one of 188 convicts transported on the Asiatic, 26 May 1843.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Sussex, Lewes General Quarter Sessions for a term of 7 years on 14 September 1842.
Vessel: Asiatic.
Date of Departure: 26 May 1843.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 91, Class and Piece Number HO11/13, Page Number 313 (158)

Title: John Doran, one of 188 convicts transported on the Asiatic, 26 May 1843.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Lancaster, Wigan Boro' General Quarter Sessions for a term of 7 years on 26 April 1842.
Vessel: Asiatic.
Date of Departure: 26 May 1843.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 91, Class and Piece Number HO11/13, Page Number 308

Title: John Doran, one of 299 convicts transported on the Pestonjee Bomanjee, 06 September 1845.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Lancaster. Liverpool Boro' Quarter Sessions for a term of 10 years on 12 May 1845.
Vessel: Pestonjee Bomanjee.
Date of Departure: 06 September 1845.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 91, Class and Piece Number HO11/14, Page Number 386

Title: John Doran, one of 190 convicts transported on the Guildford, 04 April 1822.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Middlesex Gaol Delivery for a term of life on 05 December 1821.
Vessel: Guildford.
Date of Departure: 04 April 1822.
Place of Arrival: New South Wales.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 88, Class and Piece Number HO11/4, Page Number 162

Title: John Fitzgerald, one of 350 convicts transported on the Coromandel, 25 June 1838.
Alias(es): Doran
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Central Criminal Court for a term of 15 years on 02 April 1838.
Vessel: Coromandel.
Date of Departure: 25 June 1838.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 90, Class and Piece Number HO11/11, Page Number 283 (143)
Religious marriage
Emma King — View this family
July 30, 1849 (aged 30 years)
Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia
witness: Jane King (aged 27 years) — sister-in-law — elder sister
Occupation
Labourer
1850 (aged 31 years)
Birth of a son
John James Doran
September 15, 1850 (aged 31 years)
Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia
Address: Western Rd
Baptism of a son
John James Doran
November 10, 1850 (aged 31 years)
Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia
Birth of a daughter
Emma Doran
1854 (aged 35 years)
Burrendong, New South Wales, Australia
Birth of a daughter
Elizabeth Doran
1857 (aged 38 years)
Birth of a daughter
Marion Dorans
February 26, 1860 (aged 41 years)
Fairfield, New South Wales, Australia
Birth of a son
William Dorans
1862 (aged 43 years)
Fairfield, New South Wales, Australia
Note: NSW BDM Index: 11655/1862 DORANS WILLIAM JOHN EMMA PARRAMATTA
Birth of a son
Thomas Dorans
1864 (aged 45 years)
Liverpool, New South Wales, Australia
Note: NSW BDM Index: 9576/1864 DORANS THOMAS JOHN EMMA LIVERPOOL
Occupation
Farmer
1869 (aged 50 years)
Birth of a daughter
Frances Doran
May 29, 1869 (aged 50 years)
Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia
Marriage of a daughter
William James Barber — Emma Doran — View this family
1880 Wife: 27
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Associate: Elizabeth Doran (aged 23 years) — sister-in-law — younger sister
Marriage of a son
John James Doran — Jane Hamilton — View this family
March 15, 1882 (aged 63 years) Husband: 32 Wife: 26
Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia
Address: Residence of W J Barber
Macquarie Street
Parramatta
witness: William James Barber (aged 27 years) — brother-in-law — husband’s brother-in-law
Marriage of a daughter
William Shaw — Elizabeth Doran — View this family
November 9, 1882 (aged 63 years)
Guildford, New South Wales, Australia
Address: Residence of John Doran
Guildford
witness: William James Barber (aged 27 years) — wife’s brother-in-law — brother-in-law
witness: Marion Dorans (aged 22 years) — sister-in-law — younger sister
Death
February 8, 1884 (aged 65 years)
Fairfield, New South Wales, Australia
Cause of death: Bronchitis
Informant: William Shaw — son-in-law
Burial
February 10, 1884 (2 days after death)
Rookwood, New South Wales, Australia
Cemetery: Rookwood Independant Cemetery
Address: Denomination Presbyterian
Section 3A
Grave Number 0001766
Doran Family Grave
Doran Family Grave
Doran_tombstone.jpg
Doran_tombstone.jpg
Probate
March 5, 1884 (26 days after death)
Family with Emma King
himself
Birth: calculated 1819 — Londonderry, Ireland
Immigration: before 1849
Religious marriage: July 30, 1849 — Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia
Occupation: Labourer — 1850
Occupation: Farmer — 1869
Death: February 8, 1884 — Fairfield, New South Wales, Australia
Burial: February 10, 1884 — Rookwood, New South Wales, Australia
Probate: March 5, 1884
Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Emma King John James Doran Emma Doran Elizabeth Doran Marion Dorans William Dorans Thomas Dorans Frances Doran
John Doran
1819–1884
Birth: calculated 1819 — Londonderry, Ireland
Death: February 8, 1884 — Fairfield, New South Wales, Australia
wife
Birth: 1832 34 44 — Hillcot, North Newnton, Wiltshire, England
Census: 1841 — Marlborough, Wiltshire, England
Immigration: March 26, 1849 — Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Religious marriage: July 30, 1849 — Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia
Death: February 4, 1894 — Granville, New South Wales, Australia
Burial: February 5, 1894 — Rookwood, New South Wales, Australia
Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse John Doran John James Doran Emma Doran Elizabeth Doran Marion Dorans William Dorans Thomas Dorans Frances Doran
Emma King
1832–1894
Birth: 1832 34 44 — Hillcot, North Newnton, Wiltshire, England
Death: February 4, 1894 — Granville, New South Wales, Australia
Religious marriage — July 30, 1849 — Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia
14 months
son
Birth: September 15, 1850 31 18 — Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia
Baptism: November 10, 1850 31 18 — Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia
Religious marriage: March 15, 1882 — Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia
Death: June 10, 1890
Burial: Temora, New South Wales, Australia
Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Jane Hamilton
John James Doran
1850–1890
Birth: September 15, 1850 31 18 — Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia
Death: June 10, 1890
4 years
daughter
Birth: 1854 35 22 — Burrendong, New South Wales, Australia
Marriage: 1880 — Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Death: January 23, 1940 — Balgowlah, New South Wales, Australia
Burial: January 24, 1940 — Rookwood, New South Wales, Australia
Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse William James Barber William John Barber James Albert Barber Robert Stanley Barber Louisa R Barber Emily May Barber Frederick T Barber Emma Marion Barber Sarah W Barber
Emma Doran
1854–1940
Birth: 1854 35 22 — Burrendong, New South Wales, Australia
Death: January 23, 1940 — Balgowlah, New South Wales, Australia
4 years
daughter
Birth: 1857 38 25
Religious marriage: November 9, 1882 — Guildford, New South Wales, Australia
Death: 1922
Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse William Shaw John James Shaw
Elizabeth Doran
1857–1922
Birth: 1857 38 25
Death: 1922
3 years
daughter
Birth: February 26, 1860 41 28 — Fairfield, New South Wales, Australia
Death: after February 1894
Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships
Marion Dorans
1860–1894
Birth: February 26, 1860 41 28 — Fairfield, New South Wales, Australia
Death: after February 1894
3 years
son
Birth: 1862 43 30 — Fairfield, New South Wales, Australia
Death: July 4, 1928 — Lidcombe, New South Wales, Australia
Burial: July 5, 1928 — Rookwood, New South Wales, Australia
Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships
William Dorans
1862–1928
Birth: 1862 43 30 — Fairfield, New South Wales, Australia
Death: July 4, 1928 — Lidcombe, New South Wales, Australia
3 years
son
Birth: 1864 45 32 — Liverpool, New South Wales, Australia
Death: June 15, 1897 — Western Australia, Australia
Burial: 1897 — Freemantle, Western Australia, Australia
Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships
Thomas Dorans
1864–1897
Birth: 1864 45 32 — Liverpool, New South Wales, Australia
Death: June 15, 1897 — Western Australia, Australia
6 years
daughter
Birth: May 29, 1869 50 37 — Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia
Marriage: April 3, 1895 — Granville, New South Wales, Australia
Occupation: Laborer's Wife
Death: April 30, 1909 — Narellan, New South Wales, Australia
Burial: May 1, 1909 — Narellan, New South Wales, Australia
Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Frederick Charles King Una M King Emma Violet King Frederick James King Annie Louisa King Myrtle Frances King Keith Nelson King Leonard Doran King
Frances Doran
1869–1909
Birth: May 29, 1869 50 37 — Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia
Death: April 30, 1909 — Narellan, New South Wales, Australia
Birth
Religious marriage
Occupation
Occupation
Death
Burial
Probate
Immigration

Sources checked:
NSW Archives

  • Convict records
    -- Early indents have a John Doran (alias Dolan) convicted Dublin 1790.
  • Immigration records - no good matches
    -- John Doran immigrated 1841 on "Margaret" is not a match - wife and 3 children
  • Convict lists: John Doran Arrived 1835 "Lady Mcnaughton" 1837 Muster, Convicted Meath, est birth 1816. (Meath is a long way from Londonderry so this may not be a good fit.)

No hit in 1841 NSW Census
There is a John Doran listed in the NSW Electoral roll for a number of years between 1845 & 1862 but in the the electorate of Cook.

No hit in convict marriages register.

Army pay musters:
4 John Dorans noted on garter site. None seemed to have been discharged by 1849.

http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/resources/family-history/convicts
1)
Title: John Doran, one of 188 convicts transported on the Asiatic, 26 May 1843.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Sussex, Lewes General Quarter Sessions for a term of 7 years on 14 September 1842.
Vessel: Asiatic.
Date of Departure: 26 May 1843.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 91, Class and Piece Number HO11/13, Page Number 313 (158)

Title: John Doran, one of 188 convicts transported on the Asiatic, 26 May 1843.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Lancaster, Wigan Boro' General Quarter Sessions for a term of 7 years on 26 April 1842.
Vessel: Asiatic.
Date of Departure: 26 May 1843.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 91, Class and Piece Number HO11/13, Page Number 308

Title: John Doran, one of 299 convicts transported on the Pestonjee Bomanjee, 06 September 1845.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Lancaster. Liverpool Boro' Quarter Sessions for a term of 10 years on 12 May 1845.
Vessel: Pestonjee Bomanjee.
Date of Departure: 06 September 1845.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 91, Class and Piece Number HO11/14, Page Number 386

Title: John Doran, one of 190 convicts transported on the Guildford, 04 April 1822.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Middlesex Gaol Delivery for a term of life on 05 December 1821.
Vessel: Guildford.
Date of Departure: 04 April 1822.
Place of Arrival: New South Wales.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 88, Class and Piece Number HO11/4, Page Number 162

Title: John Fitzgerald, one of 350 convicts transported on the Coromandel, 25 June 1838.
Alias(es): Doran
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Central Criminal Court for a term of 15 years on 02 April 1838.
Vessel: Coromandel.
Date of Departure: 25 June 1838.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 90, Class and Piece Number HO11/11, Page Number 283 (143)
Note

Candidate:

Index to Certificates of Freedom

Surname Firstname Alias Vessel Year CFNo Date Item Reel Remarks Order

DORAN John Sir Godfrey Webster 1826 39/1956 1 Nov 1839 4/4353 1004
DORAN John KELLY Guildford 1829 36/0084 15 Feb 1836 4/4331 996 TL 34/745
Note

Entry from Irish National Archive:

Match 1 from 'Ireland-Australia transportation database' Lastname:

ENNIS
Firstname:

MATHEW
Sex:

M
Age:

40
Trial place:

Co. Kildare
Trial date:

25/03/1839
Crime desc:

Robbery
Sentence:

Transportation life
Document ref1:

TR 3, p 85
Comment1:

See also: John Doran/John Muck

Lastname:

HORAN
Firstname:

JOHN
Alias:

Doran, John
Sex:

M
Document ref1:

TR 10, p 66

John Doran's will
John Doran's will
Doran Family Grave
Doran Family Grave