John Doran, 18191884 (aged 65 years)

Name
John /Doran/
Given names
John
Surname
Doran
Name
John /Dorans/
Given names
John
Surname
Dorans
Birth
Immigration
before 1849 (aged 30 years)
Note: Sources checked:

Sources checked:
NSW Archives

  • Convict records
    -- Early indents have a John Doran (alias Dolan) convicted Dublin 1790.
  • Immigration records - no good matches
    -- John Doran immigrated 1841 on "Margaret" is not a match - wife and 3 children
  • Convict lists: John Doran Arrived 1835 "Lady Mcnaughton" 1837 Muster, Convicted Meath, est birth 1816. (Meath is a long way from Londonderry so this may not be a good fit.)

No hit in 1841 NSW Census
There is a John Doran listed in the NSW Electoral roll for a number of years between 1845 & 1862 but in the the electorate of Cook.

No hit in convict marriages register.

Army pay musters:
4 John Dorans noted on garter site. None seemed to have been discharged by 1849.

http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/resources/family-history/convicts
1)
Title: John Doran, one of 188 convicts transported on the Asiatic, 26 May 1843.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Sussex, Lewes General Quarter Sessions for a term of 7 years on 14 September 1842.
Vessel: Asiatic.
Date of Departure: 26 May 1843.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 91, Class and Piece Number HO11/13, Page Number 313 (158)

Title: John Doran, one of 188 convicts transported on the Asiatic, 26 May 1843.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Lancaster, Wigan Boro' General Quarter Sessions for a term of 7 years on 26 April 1842.
Vessel: Asiatic.
Date of Departure: 26 May 1843.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 91, Class and Piece Number HO11/13, Page Number 308

Title: John Doran, one of 299 convicts transported on the Pestonjee Bomanjee, 06 September 1845.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Lancaster. Liverpool Boro' Quarter Sessions for a term of 10 years on 12 May 1845.
Vessel: Pestonjee Bomanjee.
Date of Departure: 06 September 1845.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 91, Class and Piece Number HO11/14, Page Number 386

Title: John Doran, one of 190 convicts transported on the Guildford, 04 April 1822.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Middlesex Gaol Delivery for a term of life on 05 December 1821.
Vessel: Guildford.
Date of Departure: 04 April 1822.
Place of Arrival: New South Wales.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 88, Class and Piece Number HO11/4, Page Number 162

Title: John Fitzgerald, one of 350 convicts transported on the Coromandel, 25 June 1838.
Alias(es): Doran
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Central Criminal Court for a term of 15 years on 02 April 1838.
Vessel: Coromandel.
Date of Departure: 25 June 1838.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 90, Class and Piece Number HO11/11, Page Number 283 (143)

Religious marriage
witness: Jane King (aged 27 years) — sister-in-law elder sister
Occupation
Labourer
1850 (aged 31 years)
Birth of a son
Address: Western Rd
Baptism of a son
Birth of a daughter
Birth of a daughter
1857 (aged 38 years)
Birth of a daughter
Birth of a son
Note: NSW BDM Index: 11655/1862 DORANS WILLIAM JOHN EMMA PARRAMATTA
Birth of a son
Note: NSW BDM Index: 9576/1864 DORANS THOMAS JOHN EMMA LIVERPOOL
Occupation
Farmer
1869 (aged 50 years)
Birth of a daughter
Marriage of a daughter
Associate: Elizabeth Doran (aged 23 years) — sister-in-law younger sister
Marriage of a son
Address: Residence of W J Barber
Macquarie Street
Parramatta
Marriage of a daughter
Address: Residence of John Doran
Guildford
witness: Marion Dorans (aged 22 years) — sister-in-law younger sister
Death
Cause of death: Bronchitis
Informant: William Shawson-in-law
Burial
Cemetery: Rookwood Independant Cemetery
Address: Denomination Presbyterian
Section 3A
Grave Number 0001766
Probate
March 5, 1884 (26 days after death)
Family with Emma King
himself
18191884
Birth: calculated 1819Londonderry, Ireland
Death: February 8, 1884Fairfield, New South Wales, Australia
wife
18321894
Birth: 1832 34 44 Hillcot, North Newnton, Wiltshire, England
Death: February 4, 1894Granville, New South Wales, Australia
Religious marriage Religious marriageJuly 30, 1849Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia
14 months
son
18501890
Birth: September 15, 1850 31 18 Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia
Death: June 10, 1890
4 years
daughter
18541940
Birth: 1854 35 22 Burrendong, New South Wales, Australia
Death: January 23, 1940Balgowlah, New South Wales, Australia
4 years
daughter
3 years
daughter
18601894
Birth: February 26, 1860 41 28 Fairfield, New South Wales, Australia
Death: after February 1894
3 years
son
18621928
Birth: 1862 43 30 Fairfield, New South Wales, Australia
Death: July 4, 1928Lidcombe, New South Wales, Australia
3 years
son
18641897
Birth: 1864 45 32 Liverpool, New South Wales, Australia
Death: June 15, 1897Western Australia, Australia
6 years
daughter
18691909
Birth: May 29, 1869 50 37 Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia
Death: April 30, 1909Narellan, New South Wales, Australia
Birth
Religious marriage
Occupation
Occupation
Death
Burial
Probate
Immigration

Sources checked:
NSW Archives

  • Convict records
    -- Early indents have a John Doran (alias Dolan) convicted Dublin 1790.
  • Immigration records - no good matches
    -- John Doran immigrated 1841 on "Margaret" is not a match - wife and 3 children
  • Convict lists: John Doran Arrived 1835 "Lady Mcnaughton" 1837 Muster, Convicted Meath, est birth 1816. (Meath is a long way from Londonderry so this may not be a good fit.)

No hit in 1841 NSW Census
There is a John Doran listed in the NSW Electoral roll for a number of years between 1845 & 1862 but in the the electorate of Cook.

No hit in convict marriages register.

Army pay musters:
4 John Dorans noted on garter site. None seemed to have been discharged by 1849.

http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/resources/family-history/convicts
1)
Title: John Doran, one of 188 convicts transported on the Asiatic, 26 May 1843.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Sussex, Lewes General Quarter Sessions for a term of 7 years on 14 September 1842.
Vessel: Asiatic.
Date of Departure: 26 May 1843.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 91, Class and Piece Number HO11/13, Page Number 313 (158)

Title: John Doran, one of 188 convicts transported on the Asiatic, 26 May 1843.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Lancaster, Wigan Boro' General Quarter Sessions for a term of 7 years on 26 April 1842.
Vessel: Asiatic.
Date of Departure: 26 May 1843.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 91, Class and Piece Number HO11/13, Page Number 308

Title: John Doran, one of 299 convicts transported on the Pestonjee Bomanjee, 06 September 1845.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Lancaster. Liverpool Boro' Quarter Sessions for a term of 10 years on 12 May 1845.
Vessel: Pestonjee Bomanjee.
Date of Departure: 06 September 1845.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 91, Class and Piece Number HO11/14, Page Number 386

Title: John Doran, one of 190 convicts transported on the Guildford, 04 April 1822.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Middlesex Gaol Delivery for a term of life on 05 December 1821.
Vessel: Guildford.
Date of Departure: 04 April 1822.
Place of Arrival: New South Wales.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 88, Class and Piece Number HO11/4, Page Number 162

Title: John Fitzgerald, one of 350 convicts transported on the Coromandel, 25 June 1838.
Alias(es): Doran
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Central Criminal Court for a term of 15 years on 02 April 1838.
Vessel: Coromandel.
Date of Departure: 25 June 1838.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 90, Class and Piece Number HO11/11, Page Number 283 (143)

Note

Candidate:

Index to Certificates of Freedom

Surname Firstname Alias Vessel Year CFNo Date Item Reel Remarks Order

DORAN John Sir Godfrey Webster 1826 39/1956 1 Nov 1839 4/4353 1004
DORAN John KELLY Guildford 1829 36/0084 15 Feb 1836 4/4331 996 TL 34/745

Note

Entry from Irish National Archive:

Match 1 from 'Ireland-Australia transportation database' Lastname:

ENNIS
Firstname:

MATHEW
Sex:

M
Age:

40
Trial place:

Co. Kildare
Trial date:

25/03/1839
Crime desc:

Robbery
Sentence:

Transportation life
Document ref1:

TR 3, p 85
Comment1:

See also: John Doran/John Muck

Lastname:

HORAN
Firstname:

JOHN
Alias:

Doran, John
Sex:

M
Document ref1:

TR 10, p 66