coi3 yu5 seui6 1877–1939 – webtrees

coi3 yu5 seui6, 1877–1939 (aged 62 years)

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China - Registration Certificate of Ah Long - 1936

Name

蔡汝粹

Name: /蔡/汝粹
Given names: 汝粹
Surname: 蔡
Romanized name: /coi3/ yu5 seui6

Name

Ah Long …

Name: Ah Long //
Given names: Ah Long

Name

Tsai Ju-sui

Name: /Tsai/ Ju-sui
Given names: Ju-sui
Surname: Tsai

Gender Male

Events of close relatives
Birth	1871
Birth	1877 Lizha, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China — 黎槎, 回龙, 高要市, 肇庆市, 广东 Note: He was commonly called "number 8". Noting his birth year in that he is older than Coi Man Seui.
Birth of a brother	Ah Young … August 12, 1878 (aged 1 year) Zhagang, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China — 槎崗, 回龙, 高要市, 肇庆市, 广东 Note: 1878 - according application re Alien Registration Act (30 May 1956) 1878 - according application re Alien Registration Act (30 May 1956) 12 Aug 1878 - Stat dec applying for naturalisation 5 Sep 1957
Residence	from 1887 to 1920 (aged 43 years)
Birth of a brother	coi3 yi3 seui6 1895 (aged 18 years) Note: As per gravestone
Trip	Extended Absence from December 1908 to May 1911 (aged 34 years) China
Residence	from 1920 to 1939 (aged 62 years) Kogarah, New South Wales, Australia Address: Carroll St Kogarah Bay Note: Land title searching Land title searching Parish of St George, County of Cumberland Portion 30 - Reference note 102 Crown Plan 2030-471, -471A grantee Matthew Carroll 17-2-1849 Shared note: Market Garden - Carroll Street Kogarah Market Garden - Carroll Street Kogarah From Torrens Title Registers: Vol-folio 2210-124 Purchased 14 dec 1911 by caroline cecilia burgess wife of ralph burgess mossman chemist. Leased 27 march 1913 to Sang War of Kogarah. Market gardener. Lease terminated and sold to Ah Young, Ah Long, Ah See and Choy Bun all Kogarah market gardeners and tenants in common 15 nov 1920. Vol-folio 3143-4 to 3143-7 registers title for each of the tenants in common. Vol-folio 3424-248 to 3424-250. (Ah young is 249). Ah See transfers out of the ownership. 28 feb 1923. Leased by the 3 owners to Ah Chong, Ah Dong, Ah En, Ah Doo and Ah Shum, Kogarah market gardeners. 17 mar 1930. Mortgaged 11 apr 1930 to margaret wood eagan wife of frank william Austin eagan of manly chartered accountant. Mortgage discharged 22 jan 1934. Ah Young mortgaged his share to Ah Long 23 Mar 1934. Mortgage discharged 9 Dec 1936. Ah Long was his brother, Coi Yu Seui. My father (Choy Shui Kong) was not aware of any family relationship with Choy Bun.
Trip	Extended Absence 1924 (aged 47 years) China
Birth of a son	Bernie Choy May 17, 1924 (aged 47 years) Note: Noted from grave. Probably more correct than the date on the old immigration records.
Trip	Extended Absence from May 1930 to September 1932 (aged 55 years) China
Birth of a son	Bernie Choy August 18, 1930 (aged 53 years)
Trip	Extended Absence from October 1938 (aged 61 years) China
Death of a father	coi3 gat1 cheung1 Zhagang, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China — 槎崗, 回龙, 高要市, 肇庆市, 广东
Death of a mother	Ho See
Death	1939 (aged 62 years) Hong Kong

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Family with parents
father	Links Birth: Lizha, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Death: Zhagang, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse … Ha coi3 [jeun2 or seun4] seui6 Family with spouse Ho See Ah Young … coi3 yu5 seui6 coi3 yi3 seui6 coi3 gat1 cheung1 蔡吉昌 – Birth: Lizha, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Death: Zhagang, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China
mother	Links Birth: Death: Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse coi3 gat1 cheung1 Ah Young … coi3 yu5 seui6 coi3 yi3 seui6 Ho See 何See – Birth: Death:
younger brother	Links Birth: August 12, 1878 — Zhagang, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Immigration: 1896 Occupation: Market Farmer — from 1896 to 1965 Trip: Extended Absence — from January 1914 to April 1916 — China Trip: Extended Absence — from March 1923 to May 1924 — China Trip: Extended Absence — from August 21, 1926 to September 29, 1927 — China Trip: Extended Absence — from January 11, 1930 to May 22, 1933 — China Trip: Extended Absence — from March 25, 1936 to December 3, 1936 — China Trip: Extended Absence — from February 20, 1956 to May 30, 1956 — China Naturalization: July 24, 1958 — Rockdale, New South Wales, Australia Death: December 12, 1968 — Newtown, New South Wales, Australia Burial: December 17, 1968 — Rookwood, New South Wales, Australia Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Chu Moy … Kam Wing Choy Wai Han Choy Lesley Choy Ah Young … 蔡文粹 1878–1968 Birth: August 12, 1878 — Zhagang, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Death: December 12, 1968 — Newtown, New South Wales, Australia
-7 years himself	Links Birth: 1871 Birth: 1877 — Lizha, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Trip: Extended Absence — from December 1908 to May 1911 — China Trip: Extended Absence — 1924 — China Trip: Extended Absence — from May 1930 to September 1932 — China Trip: Extended Absence — from October 1938 — China Death: 1939 — Hong Kong Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Family with spouse Bernie Choy coi3 yu5 seui6 蔡汝粹 1877–1939 Birth: 1877 — Lizha, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Death: 1939 — Hong Kong
25 years younger brother	Links Birth: 1895 Death: 1960 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse coi3 yi3 seui6 蔡意粹 1895–1960 Birth: 1895 Death: 1960

Father’s family with … Ha
father	Links Birth: Lizha, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Death: Zhagang, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse … Ha coi3 [jeun2 or seun4] seui6 Family with spouse Ho See Ah Young … coi3 yu5 seui6 coi3 yi3 seui6 coi3 gat1 cheung1 蔡吉昌 – Birth: Lizha, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Death: Zhagang, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China
father’s partner	Links Birth: Death: Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse coi3 gat1 cheung1 coi3 [jeun2 or seun4] seui6 … Ha … 夏 – Birth: Death:
half-brother	Links Birth: Lizha, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Death: Australia Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships coi3 [jeun2 or seun4] seui6 蔡純粹 – Birth: Lizha, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Death: Australia
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himself	Links Birth: 1871 Birth: 1877 — Lizha, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Trip: Extended Absence — from December 1908 to May 1911 — China Trip: Extended Absence — 1924 — China Trip: Extended Absence — from May 1930 to September 1932 — China Trip: Extended Absence — from October 1938 — China Death: 1939 — Hong Kong Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Family with spouse Bernie Choy coi3 yu5 seui6 蔡汝粹 1877–1939 Birth: 1877 — Lizha, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Death: 1939 — Hong Kong
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son	Private –

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himself	Links Birth: 1871 Birth: 1877 — Lizha, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Trip: Extended Absence — from December 1908 to May 1911 — China Trip: Extended Absence — 1924 — China Trip: Extended Absence — from May 1930 to September 1932 — China Trip: Extended Absence — from October 1938 — China Death: 1939 — Hong Kong Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Family with spouse Bernie Choy coi3 yu5 seui6 蔡汝粹 1877–1939 Birth: 1877 — Lizha, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Death: 1939 — Hong Kong
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son	Private –
daughter	Private –
daughter	Private –
daughter	Private –
son	Private –
son	Links Birth: May 17, 1924 47 Birth: August 18, 1930 53 Immigration: January 21, 1948 — Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Death: April 1, 1991 — New South Wales, Australia Burial: Rookwood, New South Wales, Australia Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Bernie Choy 蔡錦華 1930–1991 Birth: August 18, 1930 53 Death: April 1, 1991 — New South Wales, Australia

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Birth	He was commonly called "number 8". Noting his birth year in that he is older than Coi Man Seui.
Residence	Land title searching Parish of St George, County of Cumberland Portion 30 - Reference note 102 Crown Plan 2030-471, -471A grantee Matthew Carroll 17-2-1849 Shared note Market Garden - Carroll Street Kogarah From Torrens Title Registers: Vol-folio 2210-124 Purchased 14 dec 1911 by caroline cecilia burgess wife of ralph burgess mossman chemist. Leased 27 march 1913 to Sang War of Kogarah. Market gardener. Lease terminated and sold to Ah Young, Ah Long, Ah See and Choy Bun all Kogarah market gardeners and tenants in common 15 nov 1920. Vol-folio 3143-4 to 3143-7 registers title for each of the tenants in common. Vol-folio 3424-248 to 3424-250. (Ah young is 249). Ah See transfers out of the ownership. 28 feb 1923. Leased by the 3 owners to Ah Chong, Ah Dong, Ah En, Ah Doo and Ah Shum, Kogarah market gardeners. 17 mar 1930. Mortgaged 11 apr 1930 to margaret wood eagan wife of frank william Austin eagan of manly chartered accountant. Mortgage discharged 22 jan 1934. Ah Young mortgaged his share to Ah Long 23 Mar 1934. Mortgage discharged 9 Dec 1936. Ah Long was his brother, Coi Yu Seui. My father (Choy Shui Kong) was not aware of any family relationship with Choy Bun.
Note	Ah Long records at Australian National Archive Records examined: SP42/1 C1909/1534: Lived West Wyalong. No match. SP42/1 C1913/2449: market gardener Arncliffe and Botany. Issues certificate 119/22. SP42/1 C1914/3869: Market gardener in Newcastle. Also too old. SP42/1 C1912/4129: Cook and shop assistant at King Hing on George St. SP42/1 C1927/1260: grocer. Picture doesn't match. Riley st surry hills. SP42/1 C1927/6933: market gardener of camden. SP42/1 C1934/3652 - doesn't sound like a good match... SP42/1 C1922/2740 SP42/1 C1928/11370 SP42/1 C1929/6331 SP42/1 C1924/6041 SP42/1 C1938/7444: looks like the right one!! SP42/1 C1931/4989 SP42/1 C1940/3085: too late; wife and child ST84/1 1905/171-180 - Too old. ST84/1 1908/431-440 - Too old. Picture doesn't match. ST84/1 1921/302/21-30 - Too old ST84/1 1912/98/41-50 ST84/1 1913/119/21-30 ST84/1 1929/471/91-100 ST84/1 1937/540/51-60
Note	Failed search for naturalisation records. Request: Research topic: IMMIGRATION RECORDS Family name: Choy Given name/s: Ah Long Alternative spelling of family name: Coi Name at time of arrival in Australia: Ah Long Place of birth: China Date of birth: c. 1883 Date of arrival: Probably before 1901. He was able to purchase land so I assume he was domiciled. State/Territory of arrival: NSW State where first lived in Australia: NSW Government assisted migration?: No Was Australian citizenship obtained by the person?: No What records about this person are you looking for: Naturalisation (citizenship) records Would you like to: be sent a quote for a copy Tell us more: Earlier request as NAA1000089244. The suggestions given were too early. Has the material that is not indexed in RecordSearch been checked - probably 1930's. Response: Thank you for your inquiry regarding naturalisation records relating to Ah Long Choy. We have searched our naturalisation indexes (1904-1991) but unfortunately have been unable to locate any records relating to the naturalisation of Ah Long Choy. We are not able to definitely state that Ah Long Choy was not naturalised, but there are no records to suggest that this was the case. As search was also made using the alternate spelling of surname with the same result.

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Family with parents
father Parents coi3 yi5 hei1 ? Lee	coi3 gat1 cheung1 –
mother	Ho See –
younger brother Family Chu Moy … Kam Wing Choy Wai Han Choy Private Private Private Lesley Choy	Ah Young … 1878–1968
himself	coi3 yu5 seui6 1877–1939
younger brother Family Private	coi3 yi3 seui6 1895–1960

Father’s family with … Ha
father Parents coi3 yi5 hei1 ? Lee	coi3 gat1 cheung1 –
father’s partner	… Ha –
half-brother	coi3 [jeun2 or seun4] seui6 –
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half-sister	Private

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himself	coi3 yu5 seui6 1877–1939
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himself	coi3 yu5 seui6 1877–1939
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son Family Private Private Private Private	Bernie Choy 1930–1991

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