Ah Young …, 1878–1968 (aged 90 years)
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- Ah Young //
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- immigration name
- Given names
- Ah Young
- Name
- /蔡/文粹
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- 文粹
- Surname
- 蔡
- Romanized name
- /coi3/ man4 seui6
- Name
- /coi3/ man4 seui6
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- man4 seui6
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Birth
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Note: 1878 - according application re Alien Registration Act (30 May 1956) 1878 - according application re Alien Registration Act (30 May 1956) 12 Aug 1878 - Stat dec applying for naturalisation 5 Sep 1957 |
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Birth of a brother
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Note: As per gravestone |
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Immigration
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Note: Immigration file paperwork has conflicting references to Darwin and Cooktown. Dad says unlikely as this isn't a place represented by Tiy Loy or War Hing. May be a convenient location for records due to records being lost or a vagary of translation. Immigration file paperwork has conflicting references to Darwin and Cooktown. Dad says unlikely as this isn't a place represented by Tiy Loy or War Hing. May be a convenient location for records due to records being lost or a vagary of translation. Within Ah Young's Immigration file, 1896 is given quite consistently and over a number of years asthe date he arrived in Australia. In the file of nephew Choy Ching Wah, dated 1950, his arrival is given as 1885. This may be a clerical error. I think the 1896 date has more evidence. |
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Address: Carroll St Kogarah Bay Note: Land title searching Land title searching Parish of St George, County of Cumberland Crown Plan 2030-471, -471A grantee Matthew Carroll 17-2-1849 Shared note: Market Garden - Carroll Street Kogarah Market Garden - Carroll Street Kogarah From Torrens Title Registers: Vol-folio 2210-124 Leased 27 march 1913 to Sang War of Kogarah. Market gardener. Vol-folio 3143-4 to 3143-7 registers title for each of the tenants in common. Vol-folio 3424-248 to 3424-250. (Ah young is 249). Ah Young mortgaged his share to Ah Long 23 Mar 1934. Mortgage discharged 9 Dec 1936. Ah Long was his brother, Coi Yu Seui. My father (Choy Shui Kong) was not aware of any family relationship with Choy Bun. |
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Death of a brother
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Residence
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Address: French St Kogarah |
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Note: Left and Returned on the "Changsha". |
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Naturalization
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Residence
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Address: 42 Kendall St San Souci |
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Death of a brother
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Note: as per gravestone |
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Residence
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Address: Hezlett Rd Note: Between San Souci and Kellyville, there was a short period of time when a farm at Milpera was also being leased. |
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Death of a father
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Death of a mother
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Death
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Note: NSW BDM Index: 40949/1968 |
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Burial
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Cemetery: Rookwood Cemetery
Address: General Section Chinese 4 Grave 650 |
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蔡吉昌
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Birth: Lizha, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Death: Zhagang, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China |
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蔡文粹
1878–1968
Birth: August 12, 1878
— Zhagang, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Death: December 12, 1968 — Newtown, New South Wales, Australia |
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-7 years
elder brother |
蔡汝粹
1877–1939
Birth: 1877
— Lizha, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Death: 1939 — Hong Kong |
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25 years
younger brother |
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蔡吉昌
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Birth: Lizha, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Death: Zhagang, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China |
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蔡純粹
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Birth: Lizha, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Death: Australia |
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蔡文粹
1878–1968
Birth: August 12, 1878
— Zhagang, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Death: December 12, 1968 — Newtown, New South Wales, Australia |
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蔡錦榮
1915–2003
Birth: August 10, 1915
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— Zhagang, Huilong, Gaoyao, Zhaoqing, Guangdong, China Death: August 16, 2003 — Bankstown, New South Wales, Australia |
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蔡慧嫻
1925–2018
Birth: April 20, 1925
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Death: February 7, 2018 — Hong Kong |
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| Birth |
1878 - according application re Alien Registration Act (30 May 1956) 12 Aug 1878 - Stat dec applying for naturalisation 5 Sep 1957 |
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Immigration file paperwork has conflicting references to Darwin and Cooktown. Dad says unlikely as this isn't a place represented by Tiy Loy or War Hing. May be a convenient location for records due to records being lost or a vagary of translation. Within Ah Young's Immigration file, 1896 is given quite consistently and over a number of years asthe date he arrived in Australia. In the file of nephew Choy Ching Wah, dated 1950, his arrival is given as 1885. This may be a clerical error. I think the 1896 date has more evidence. |
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Land title searching Parish of St George, County of Cumberland Crown Plan 2030-471, -471A grantee Matthew Carroll 17-2-1849
Shared note
Market Garden - Carroll Street Kogarah From Torrens Title Registers: Vol-folio 2210-124 Leased 27 march 1913 to Sang War of Kogarah. Market gardener. Vol-folio 3143-4 to 3143-7 registers title for each of the tenants in common. Vol-folio 3424-248 to 3424-250. (Ah young is 249). Ah Young mortgaged his share to Ah Long 23 Mar 1934. Mortgage discharged 9 Dec 1936. Ah Long was his brother, Coi Yu Seui. My father (Choy Shui Kong) was not aware of any family relationship with Choy Bun. |
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Left and Returned on the "Changsha". |
| Residence |
Between San Souci and Kellyville, there was a short period of time when a farm at Milpera was also being leased. |
| Death |
NSW BDM Index: 40949/1968 |
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Searching for Certificate Exempting from Dictation Test. The following CEDT's do not relate to this individual: 1924/380/11-20 - #19 - too old (52) 1930/476/21-30 - no pic or description. Text:"Issued on arrival after being satifactorily identified 1A1120". dated 6 APR 1930. 1930/485/81-90 - no pic or description. Text: "Issues on arrival as extension of NSW C.E.D.T. 486/73 IAI 189". dated 8 NOV 1930. 1927/428/41-50 - #42 - aged 50. possible pic but unlikely. 1930/485/81-90 - #84 is an extension of 426/73. Return date of 8 NOV 1930 1931/487/31-40 - #33 - too old and picture doesn't match SP1732/5 3138 Young, Ah [Chinese - arrived Thursday Island per SS TAIPING, 8 Jan 1940. With photograph][Box 43] - no match. File includes family and lives at Parramatta. SP42/2 C1933/3643 Ah Young and others [Certificates Exempting from Dictation Test and related correspondence for Chinese passengers arriving Sydney per NELLORE, 22 May 1933 - includes photographs, passport, hand impression, thumb prints] [Box 5] - no match. SP42/2 C1933/2083 Ah Young and others [documentation relating to Chinese passengers arriving Sydney per TANDA 22 March 1933 - includes photographs, finger prints, Certificates Exempting from Dictation Test, Birth Certificates] [Box 4] - no match SP11/2 Chinese/Young Ah[2] - no match ST84/1 1930/474/31-40 barcode 7961193: 474/36 appears in his Naturalisation fileNeed to be checked: ST84/1 1932/492/81-90 barcode 7961308 ST84/1 1933/507/81-90 barcode 7961338 ST84/1 1935/528/51-60 barcode 7961435 |
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Shared note
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Market Garden - Carroll Street Kogarah From Torrens Title Registers: Vol-folio 2210-124 Leased 27 march 1913 to Sang War of Kogarah. Market gardener. Vol-folio 3143-4 to 3143-7 registers title for each of the tenants in common. Vol-folio 3424-248 to 3424-250. (Ah young is 249). Ah Young mortgaged his share to Ah Long 23 Mar 1934. Mortgage discharged 9 Dec 1936. Ah Long was his brother, Coi Yu Seui. My father (Choy Shui Kong) was not aware of any family relationship with Choy Bun. |
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Research notes - Kogarah library One or two Ah Young's? There was another property off Stubbs St(lot 160, DP 7056 ), owned by "Ah Young" and using a farm name "Sun Sang War". There was correspondence to him 7 Oct 1937 which was incorrectly delivered delivered to Carrol St. The drop copy is noted as having been delivered to Ah Young of Sybil St. Also noted that different solicitors represented these two Ah Youngs. Conclusion: these are two different people. Source - Kogarah Council Archives |
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Research notes - Kogarah library There was a rates query 14 July 1938 which mentions Ah Long and Ah Young being of Sydney and Choy Bun bewing of China. This suggests that Choy Bun was the vendor who was about to travel back to China. Refer earlier corre item. |
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Shipping records via Ancestry around 1896 arrivals in Sydney: 5 May - Aramac - from Melb 28 Jan 1897 - Framnes - from China - right age but listed as cabin boy. View Record Ah Young Sydney, New South Wales 5 May 1896 Aramac |
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Chinese Names in Trove Using "蔡文粹" - Coi Mun Seui 雪 梨 僑 衆 歡 迎 蔡 將 軍 大 會 進 支 數 (1935, May 11). Tung Wah Times (Sydney, NSW : 1901 - 1936), p. 5. Retrieved April 12, 2019, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article227447908 績 捐 英 狀 (1915, September 18). Guang yi hua bao = The Chinese Australian Herald (Sydney, NSW : 1894 - 1923), p. 2 (SUPPLEMET). Retrieved April 12, 2019, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article169062902 專 件 (1915, October 2). Tung Wah Times (Sydney, NSW : 1901 - 1936), p. 8. Retrieved April 12, 2019, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article226734185 Using "蔡汝粹" - Coi Yu Seui 恭頌 太 平 輪船 (1927, April 16). Tung Wah Times (Sydney, NSW : 1901 - 1936), p. 8. Retrieved April 12, 2019, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article227458164 Using "蔡意粹" - Coi Yi Seui - 0 hits Using "蔡吉昌" - Coi Gat Cheung - o hits |
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Note: Image copy from Beverley Earnshaw - 2013. The original is in the collection of the Kogarah Historical Society. It has been reproduced in a publication of the Society where it was incorrectly labelled. Image copy from Beverley Earnshaw - 2013. The original is in the collection of the Kogarah Historical Society. It has been reproduced in a publication of the Society where it was incorrectly labelled. This image differs slightly from the one held in Kogarah Library as backing card has been cropped. Importantly, there is a stamp of the studio where the photo was taken. This gives an address in Zhaoqing. From left to right: |
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Note: This is a list of donors who contributed to a relief fund for flood victims. The page labelled S2 (Supplement 2?) in Trove is a continuation of an article that begins on Page 6. This is a list of donors who contributed to a relief fund for flood victims. The page labelled S2 (Supplement 2?) in Trove is a continuation of an article that begins on Page 6. 紐 縣 磁 中 華 會 館 委 令 頓 芈 釕 二 期 水 災 捐 欵 芳 名 1 |
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Note: Sydney Chinese community welcome general Choy tang guy and supports war donation. Sydney Chinese community welcome general Choy tang guy and supports war donation. 蔡文粹 is listed as giving one pound. |
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Note: Notes made after a visit to Department of Lands. Blue pen marking around DP1127867 and DP19221 show the extent of the Sang War farm. |